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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 10:03:28 GMT -5
Continuing the discussion, now that we're getting deeper into the draft. Here's my take on it. -- using my pre-draft values.  Nice job by sadindians - four of the top 10 pitcher value picks and 2 in the top 10 batters. Again -- these numbers are based solely on my own pre-draft rankings, yours would likely differ. Cheers |
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Post by thehappyhollidays on Feb 21, 2012 10:09:03 GMT -5
So your "values" have Napoli worth $33 but Tulo only worth $29?? And Tim Hudson worth $14 and Gallardo worth $10??
Yes my "values" differ.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 10:17:36 GMT -5
Further, here are my overall numbers:  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 10:30:03 GMT -5
So your "values" have Napoli worth $33 but Tulo only worth $29?? And Tim Hudson worth $14 and Gallardo worth $10?? Yes my "values" differ. Looking at your two examples: Tulo vs NapoliDue to this being a two catcher league, I have a premium added to Catcher value, which is what puts Napoli higher. If it were a one Catcher league, subtract $8 from Napoli. Tulo should end up with more runs/RBI, but I have napoli with more HR. Avg/OBP should be similar. Hudson vs GallardoI have them around the same in Wins,QS. Gallardo will ahve more K's, but Hudson should have a better ERA and WHIP, which accounts for the difference. If considering keeper value - Gallardo would be on top by a long shot, but I did not factor that into my numbers. |
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Post by thehappyhollidays on Feb 21, 2012 10:50:18 GMT -5
Fair enough. We all value the player pool differently.
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Post by sadindians on Feb 21, 2012 11:00:41 GMT -5
It's interesting to see how everyone has very different valuations. I thought Napoli was my biggest overpayment/regret.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 11:04:58 GMT -5
Indeed. I could be totally out in left field on this.
All part of the fun!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 11:43:16 GMT -5
Those values are completely absurd. I would explain why, but it's not worth debating. I'm glad you used them, though!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 12:13:24 GMT -5
CMon Sex machine, don't just make a statement like that then run and hide.
At least provide an example or two of why they are so absurd.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 12:16:27 GMT -5
Oh wait... I know why they are absurd. Because according to them, your name only appears in the right column.
I have seen the light!
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Post by Charleston Mudhens on Feb 21, 2012 13:20:51 GMT -5
You seriously think Clippard, Adams and Ted Lilly have more value than Lester and Gallardo??? I also had to laugh at the value you place on Mauer and Napoli. I don't care if this is a 4 Catcher league. They simply can't touch the values that a Tulo, J Up can provide.
I do appreciate that you are putting the time into doing this, though... It is interesting to say the least.
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Post by South Paws on Feb 21, 2012 13:23:20 GMT -5
While I also disagree with some of your values (particularly with pitchers), I did find it interesting and anytime you put values out there, people will criticize it. If I have time later, I'll put together my own schedule of most overpaids/underpaids.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 14:01:13 GMT -5
Appreciate the thoughts, guys.
Always nice to see how opinions differ.
As for my thoughts on Clippard/Adams vs Lester/Gallardo. If this was standard 5x5 roto, the values would be very different. Since we are running 7x7 - I have clippard and adams being at the top of 3/7 categories. Lester and Gallardo should also do well in 3/7, but not as close to the top of said categories, compared to their peers.
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Post by Charleston Mudhens on Feb 21, 2012 14:20:02 GMT -5
I appreciate the response. I think Gallardo and Lester will provide more value in the ERA and WHIP cats just based on # of innings pitched. Don't get me wrong I do agree that both Adams and Clippard have good value, just not the value of an above average starter... imo
The good thing about "My Opinion" is that it is just that... If your formula is bringing you sucess stick to it.. It really doesn't matter what my opinion is... If we all placed the same values on players Fantasy Baseball wouldn't be very much fun...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 14:29:00 GMT -5
I appreciate the response. I think Gallardo and Lester will provide more value in the ERA and WHIP cats just based on # of innings pitched. Don't get me wrong I do agree that both Adams and Clippard have good value, just not the value of an above average starter... imo The good thing about "My Opinion" is that it is just that... If your formula is bringing you sucess stick to it.. It really doesn't matter what my opinion is... If we all placed the same values on players Fantasy Baseball wouldn't be very much fun... Very good points. I have had some success based on how I rank players. If I flop in this league it will likely have more to do with how I approached the auction itself. Went much higher on my outfield than I was originally planning, forcing myself to adopt a new strategy on the fly. |
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Post by Charleston Mudhens on Feb 21, 2012 14:34:01 GMT -5
I hear ya... This is my 1st slow auction and I feel like I have totally botched it... Will be looking to do some trading after the draft.
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Post by CJ n BR on Feb 21, 2012 14:57:51 GMT -5
I hear ya... This is my 1st slow auction and I feel like I have totally botched it... Will be looking to do some trading after the draft. This is my 5th auction ....I feel like that every year . This is the 1st time players have went so high tho . We'll see how owners can do some magic tricks to pull off trades George PS great post Motor Bike Mike |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2012 8:06:11 GMT -5
I'm in the same boat as charleston, Im not too thrilled with how I went about this. Btw Clippard's metrics are something to be cautious about, .197 BABIP, 95.6 LOB%. Not sustainable numbers
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2012 8:08:49 GMT -5
PS great post Motor Bike Mike That's too funny. When I was a young, my parents called me Motor Mouth... |
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