Minor leaguers

[sadindians]

I'm a little unclear about one thing. After you call up a minor leaguer you can send him back down? What if you trade for a player that had been on the other team's minor league roster and called up. Can you send him back down to your minor league roster? Can you send a player back down the following season or only within the same season that you called him up?

[CJ n BR]

as long as the minor leaguer has not reached his minumums you can send him back down to the minor roster. also if aquired in a trade your minor league rosters salary can not go above $100 if so you need to keep him on the major league roster or drop minor leaguers to get the cap at or below $100. you can also send him back down the next season if: he is below the minimums, your roster would be = or under $100. if you have the player on your major roster on Jan 28th (deadline to submit rosters) then he will be viewed as a minor 2 contract, however if player and franchise meets the above requirements then you could move him down to minors. i would suggest that you have player on the minor league roster if he is below minimums so as not to start the clock on him early. hope this helps.

[sadindians]

I'm not sure what you mean by "start the clock". If you can still send him down the following season, then wouldn't that stop the clock since he's back in the minors?

[CJ n BR]

yes it does stop the clock and they remain a minor 1 contract that would only cost you $1. example from the other league we are in: desmond jennings was a minor 1 contract 3 years ago but because the owner either thought he was going to be playing in the majors or he didn't have cap room to place him in his minors (not sure what his reason was) he started him on the major league roster 2 years ago which made him a minor 2 contract at $2. well jennings never got any time up, going into last year jennings remained on the major league roster at a minor 3 contract at $3. he got ab's last year to put him over the minimums so this year he will be accruing the $5 escalator and will be $8. if he would have been left on the minor roster jennings should be entering this year as a minor 2 contract at $2 not the $8 he is going to be, thus his clock was started. just saying i think it is in your best interest to try not start the clock on a player early to save money down the road. just a suggestion you play it how you want. with this being the first year none of those decisions will come until the end of the year. hope this helps just let me know

[sadindians]

Okay I'm just trying to understand. In your example, in the second year Jennings was a year 2 minor leaguer but didn't play. If the owner at that time, had sent him down to the minors, then he would still be a year two minor leaguer the following year not a year 3, right?

[CJ n BR]

correct if he would have been sent down it would stop his clock at minor 2. however, and i am only guessing to what that owner was doing, jennings was pretty expensive minor leaguer something like $40 something dollars, therefore the owner would have to clear room in his minors for him and he would have less to spend on the new class of minor draftees. so the owner chose to leave him on the major roster and incur the $1 that it would cost him to have more money to spend on minor leaguers.

[sadindians]

Gotcha. Makes sense. Thanks.

[sadindians]

Sorry one more question. In the minor draft, you have to get 10 players, so the max you can spend on one player is $91, right? I ask because you had pointed out an example in another message of a $100 Strasburg. But our rules say the minor draft is the same as the major draft with specified exceptions. Sorry just clarifying things so I don't have to be surprised by details at the draft.

[Pancake Titans]

my understanding is you can have UP TO 10 minor leagues in the minor league draft. This means you can bid $100 on 1 player as has been done in our other league with same rules - or you can bid on 10 players up to $100.

[CJ n BR]

pancake is right . exceptions being you don't have to fill it or keep it full. you do the major roster . it'll make sense when trading happens :-)
george

[sadindians]

So the major roster you have to always have 9 bench players, even after the draft?

[CJ n BR]

correct, the majors always has to have a complete roster. the minors can have up to 10 players under $100 cap.

[ctaylo25]

Why a rule that the major league team has to be full at all times? Don't see why this is necessary.

[CJ n BR]

Cap reasons . Keeps teams balanced . You could gamble with no bench , then you have a mess.
No bench can give chance to illegal lineups , which screws up the integrity of the league .
Owners tend to give up when they make bad trades , choices ect.
Been in leagues that didnt do this , it was a mess.
We have done these leagues for years . It keeps an even playing field .

[South Paws]

I had a question about contracts for players that are under the league minimum, but it appears that it was addressed already here. If I kept a player on my major league roster that is under the minimums, I was under the impression that he stays at $1 until the following year AFTER he reaches the minimum.

The rule:
Year 1 Major Leaguer: Once a minor leaguer reaches his minimums, he becomes a Year 1 Major Leaguer for the current season. At this point his salary is $1, and will remain such throughout the remainder of his first full season. And again, he can no longer be sent to the minors at this point.

As such, it appears that if a minor leaguer can reach his minimums and have a salary greater than $1, then the wording of that rule should be amended. Otherwise it appears that any player under the minimums, regardless if they are on a minor league or major league roster would have a salary of $1 even if they've been on the major league roster for a full season already.

[Napolean]

I thought once you lock a minor leaguer into the major league roster at the beginning of the year, ie, January 28th, you cannot move him back down? Please read below:

"minor leaguers that have not met the major league requirements that are brought up to the major league roster when rosters are locked will not start their arbitration clock and will incur a minor 1 status and a salary of $1. Players will no longer be eligible to be moved to the minor league roster"

[South Paws]

I believe that is what we agreed to last year, correct. But when you read through the salary rules for players that have not yet reach the minimum, it indicates that the players salary will be $1 for the year that the player reaches his minimums. It doesn't say anything about whether such player is on your major league roster or minor league roster.

All I'm saying that if it's the rule that a player that hasn't reached his minimums, but is on a major league roster is subject to different salary rules than a player that hasn't reached his minimums yet is on the minor league roster, that should be specifically stated within the rules in the minor league player salary section.

[CJ n BR]

it was voted on last year. if you start a minor leaguer on the major roster he will have a salary of $1 and will not be eligible to be returned to the minors no matter if he has met the requirements or not. that is the penalty for moving a player up, his clock will be started.

[Napolean]

OK, but the way I read your earlier statements, it sounded like the clock could be stopped. Don't get me wrong, I've believed all along that once you move a player up, the clocks starts and can't be stopped for any reason.

[CJ n BR]

I think the rule on minor leaguers is ambiguous and can be ruled either way. This is not just our league but it is everyones league and you should be heard on the way you interpret the rule. This is not a rule change. This will be for clarity. I am looking for the majority vote on how we will go about this rule. What I am looking for is what will be the cost and their status associated with the minor leaguers that have not met their major league requirements at the start of the year if said minor leaguer is started on the major league roster when rosters are locked. We don't have a lot of time so this will need to be quick and I need to cut this off by midnight est Saturday January 26.

Poll Results
minor leaguers that have not met the major league requirements that are brought up to the major league roster when rosters are locked will start their arbitration clock and will incur a minor 2 status and a salary of $2. Players will no longer be eligible to be moved to minor league roster.

5

minor leaguers that have not met the major league requirements that are brought up to the major league roster when rosters are locked will not start their arbitration clock and will incur a minor 1 status and a salary of $1. Players will be eligible to be moved to minor league roster as long as you have cap space and room in minors.

1

minor leaguers that have not met the major league requirements that are brought up to the major league roster when rosters are locked will not start their arbitration clock and will incur a minor 1 status and a salary of $1. Players will no longer be eligible to be moved to the minor league roster.

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I found the poll from last year where we voted on this. You are correct Jeff it did say that the clock will not start, but it also says player will not be eligible to return to the minors and I think this is the point that everyone is bringing up. I have amended the rule in saying that the clock will start the player at $1 and minor 1 status and the player will no longer be eligible to be sent down to the minor league roster. We followed the intent of the rule all of last year. It gives owners the decision of starting a minor leaguer up and freeing cap space in the minor leagues or starting the cost associated with said player. Basically if I have removed the parenthesis and cost associated with the minor leaguer he is not eligible to be sent back down to the minors.

[Seattle Steelheads]

I found the poll from last year where we voted on this. You are correct Jeff it did say that the clock will not start, but it also says player will not be eligible to return to the minors and I think this is the point that everyone is bringing up. I have amended the rule in saying that the clock will start the player at $1 and minor 1 status and the player will no longer be eligible to be sent down to the minor league roster. We followed the intent of the rule all of last year. It gives owners the decision of starting a minor leaguer up and freeing cap space in the minor leagues or starting the cost associated with said player. Basically if I have removed the parenthesis and cost associated with the minor leaguer he is not eligible to be sent back down to the minors.


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So, my biggest question is...if the minor league player was brought up last week to the major league roster, for example, my Byron Buxton. And Mr. Buxton is a late call-up in September and only gets 92 PA's. Is he on my major league roster next year (2015) at the same $1 or is he $2?

[CJ n BR]

He will be $2

[Seattle Steelheads]

Great, that was how I was playing it. Thanks and sorry for this redundant topic

Go Seahawks!

[Seattle Steelheads]

Great, that was how I was playing it. Thanks and sorry for this redundant topic

Go Seahawks!

[Seattle Steelheads]

Great, that was how I was playing it. Thanks and sorry for this redundant topic

Go Seahawks!