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Post by sadindians on Feb 12, 2014 16:26:29 GMT -5
What's the rule for foreign players added after the draft started? Erisbel Arrunaboonaboonabuela got signed today. Is he eligible?
The reason I ask is last year or the year before in my other league (also a slow draft) Andy Pettite signed during our reserve draft and whoevers turn it was to pick got a solid player in a pretty unfair way. What if some superstar Cuban were to sign on the last day of the draft when only one owner has more than $2 so he gets a stud player for 3.
So I think the rule should be any player added after the draft begins shouldn't be eligible and should have to go through FAAB.
Another example is Suk My Yoon. I don't know if he's any good but if he is someone could get a great deal just because they happen to have $ left.
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Feb 12, 2014 16:33:41 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 16:33:41 GMT -5
I agree in that they shouldn't be available for the draft if they signed during it... however they should be available for the minors draft.
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Feb 12, 2014 16:56:45 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 16:56:45 GMT -5
Agreed.
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Post by sadindians on Feb 12, 2014 18:26:27 GMT -5
I can see them being available in the minors draft since they are there at the beginning of it. There's still the risk of having a Tanaka available as a minor all of a sudden and anyone that didn't purge their minors roster can't have a chance at him.
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Feb 12, 2014 18:41:07 GMT -5
Post by CJ n BR on Feb 12, 2014 18:41:07 GMT -5
it seems like this happened a few years back with another player in another league. I will get with George as he seems to remember these things better, but I think we came to the conclusion that they would only be available through free agency.
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Feb 13, 2014 10:02:21 GMT -5
Post by CJ n BR on Feb 13, 2014 10:02:21 GMT -5
After talking with George we did have this happen several years back. It was Yonenis Cespedes, he signed after we had started the draft. To make a level playing field foreign players that sign after the draft has started will only be eligible in FAAB. That way everyone has an equal oppurtunity to place their bid on such player. I will make an amendment of such in the rules.
Scott
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Post by Seattle Steelheads on Feb 13, 2014 10:54:24 GMT -5
So Ducati should have to give up Cespedes for a retro illegal selection? Sucks for him On August 29, 1996, the Seattle Mariners traded David Arias to the Twins for David Hollins. WHO WAS DAVID ARIAS?  ? |
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Feb 16, 2014 9:08:44 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 9:08:44 GMT -5
I just want to make sure we are on the same page here: Mike gave Andy Pettit as an example of a guy who should fall to FAAB. While I completely agree with this policy with respect to international players who sign major league contracts, I do not agree with this policy with respect to FAs in general. Anyone can draft or trade for Andy Pettit, whether he has purportedly retired or not. It's not as if he is an unknown. International free agents can strike like lightning, so I understand the fairness issue there.
Consider A.J. Burnett. I traded away a pretty solid OF for a guy who, at the time, was about 50:50 going to retire. He didn't ultimately sign until February 12. How do you deal with a situation like that? If A.J. Burnett is drafted or kept prior to announcing he will play he's fair game, but as soon as he signs with a team he is undraftable? A free agent who has value after he is signed virtually always has value before he has signed. Nelson Cruz was drafted, and if he plays 81 games at Coors Field next year he was a steal, but if he signs with the Astros on June 4 he probably wasn't a good draft pick (and what about Cruz, does he become undraftable after he is signed?). His value will depend heavily on when and where he signs, but we all know he is out there.
I just want to clarify that this rule will only apply to previously-unknown international free agents who sign after the draft starts (e.g. I don't think anyone would have been surprised that Tanaka signed with an MLB club had he signed after February 3).
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Feb 16, 2014 9:18:07 GMT -5
Post by CJ n BR on Feb 16, 2014 9:18:07 GMT -5
I'll talk to scott today and come up with a good answer bud . The way I see it is those guys were already MLB players. Where Yoon hasnt been till after the draft started.
This statement rings true to me "I just want to clarify that this rule will only apply to previously-unknown international free agents who sign after the draft starts (e.g. I don't think anyone would have been surprised that Tanaka signed with an MLB club had he signed after February 3)."
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Feb 16, 2014 9:19:08 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2014 9:19:08 GMT -5
The difference between Pettite/Burnett and the unsigned international players is the former have already met the MLB minimum AB/IP. So they are draftable even when not signed to a Major League team.
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Post by sadindians on Feb 16, 2014 10:43:20 GMT -5
Sorry if I caused any confusion. The Andy Pettitte example was in my other league which is AL only so he was not eligible until he signed with an AL team. A few years ago Roger Clemens signed late, same thing. I agree in our league this couldn't happen but the problem is the same - a player suddenly in the player pool that we didn't get to budget for. In this years example, a big foreign signing would go to Sex Panthers who forgot to spend his money.
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